Netvista X40 goes headless

After seven months of trouble-free operation, our (second hand) IBM Netvista X40 computer (an all-in-one corporate desktop system aged about five years) decided to retire, at least partially.

The system itself is still fully functional, but the display remains black as, well, very very dark grey. Not very good because, unlike a laptop, this box has no VGA-out. It is therefore destined to remain headless, unless I manage to find a suitable (low-profile) video card for its PCI slot. In which case I’ll have to buy a new monitor as well.

Considering all symptoms, and the age of the beast, I suspect the display lamp (CCFL tube) simply broke down. An inspection of all the components remained — however fun to perform — without results.

Netvista X40 cover open

Netvista X40 close-up

Netvista X40 display panel back

Of course, I could try to either replace the CCFL tube or the display panel altogether (a 09N2671). The latter would set me back at least $75 + international shipping costs.

Plan B is to modify the system into a silent, low-power, always-on server. Given the compact motherboard and tiny power supply, it could easily be wall-mounted on a wooden plate, close to modem and router.

I just have to be careful not to break the implicit SLA with the girlfriend :-)

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29 Comments on “Netvista X40 goes headless”

  1. fl0 Says:

    Some more info… The LCD panel is part # 09N2671, but 89P8138 and 22P2284 are compatible. The power inverter is called 09N3268.

    Overview of components is available at http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-4JGQAM .

  2. Tom Coffin Says:

    We are experiencing the same issue with the display – did changing the inverter work?

  3. fl0 Says:

    I haven’t got a replacement inverter at the moment…
    I can’t even open it because it requires a special screwdriver (small, six-sided).

    In the mean time I have inserted a PCI video card, and the system is now running with a separate monitor.

    If I make any progress, I’ll post about it here.

  4. John Says:

    I have 2 Netvista All-in-one units and the Inverter on one died about 3 years ago under warranty. A replacment inverter has provided another 3 years of continued daily operation… you can almost bank on the inverter fixing your problem if you see that for a split second at boot up you get some text and that the monitor is actually dark grey and not gone black after all.

    X40 #2 located at my parents hose crapped out with same symptoms yesterday… SO I too am seeking a source for this par that I suspect will be hard to find. I’ll post here if I fond anything… please to same if you find a good source

    • John
  5. fl0 Says:

    Thanks John, I will. I’ve seen X40 dispalay panels with inverter included on eBay, but the inverters separate are indeed hard to find.

    You talk about seeing text at bootup (for a split second), but I don’t see that… My screen is also very very dark, so I call it black :-) Altough I can see the login screen graphics after a while, given the right lighting conditions.

    But, first onto: findig a very very tiny Torx screwdriver, I guess.

  6. John Says:

    Yes, I just scored a pair of partly functional X40’s off ebay $46USD that should have one good inverter . On your hunt for the Torx screwdriver, I think you are seeking a ‘Tamper resistant Torx’ #8 (or maybe#10). It’s got an IBM part #19K3624. The screws have a nub on the middle so the driver has to have a center hollow.

  7. fl0 Says:

    Ah, thanks.

  8. John Says:

    The scrap PC’s I bought off ebay arrived and it appears that one of the two Inverters is functional, so the investment was worthwhile. It is TDK part number TAD439 EAO2439 Rev6. Neither of these machines required the Torx driver to remove (unlike the machine I’m working on right now), just tiny little phillips head screws. I’ve got an email into the tech support at TDK components division to determine if there is a source of the TDK part or a universal replacment from the current model line up . It will probably be a week before I travel to my parents home to install the replacement so I’ll have to presume that its going to work.

  9. fl0 Says:

    Thanks for keeping me updated. Did you make any pictures by any chance? It intrigues me that some inverters are fixed with Torx screws, and others with normal ones.

  10. John Says:

    Sorry I didn’t have camera with me to take photos . . . Did replace LCD inverter with used spare. This resolved the problem and the machine has returned to service. $76USD plus 45 mins assembly/disassembly was the total investment.

    The response from TDK idicated that the TAD439 is an OEM part and they can’t release any of the specifications so as to find a generic replacement. I’m not going to bother trying to even request that from IBM since the machine series is sooooo old and since the PC part of the business is now Lenovo. I do have one final avenue, to investigate, however. Once I dismantle the remaining Netvista scrap machine I should know the MFG (Pretty sure it is Hyundai) and PN of the LCD panel, not the IBM P/N. Then I can go back to TDK with a question that hopefully wont be proprietary in nature (”What TDK Inverter is the right model to drive a 15″ Hyundai model xxxx”)

  11. fl0 Says:

    Too bad I live in Europe; cheap eBay items can be quite expensive if they have to be shipped intercontinentally…

  12. muxx Says:

    hi guys

    I have the same problem with the inverter.
    I took an inverter from a broken laptop and powered one lamp of four — works well enough to set up bios and make it boot. I don’t really need the display.
    I guess you can use almost any inverter in its place, although some of them might be not powerful enough.

    the pinout for the TAD439 is as follows:

    yellow – 12V
    black – ground
    green – brightness
    black – ground
    red – ON

    hope this helps. another idea I guess would be to solder several white extra-bright LEDs to a rail and insert it instead of the lamp.

    there are some auctions on e-bay selling two-channel inverters.

  13. muxx Says:

    btw, on my board two parts look suspiciously dark. I guess they might be burnt. they are called CR7 and CR8. the same parts for another channel (CR3 and CR2) seem fine.

    you don’t really need a funny screwdriver to open the cover. I used pliers to move it and then unscrewed with a hand. put normal screws there instead.

  14. fl0blog (Floris Lambrechts) » Blog Archive » Netvista still headless Says:

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  15. Rabert Rice Says:

    Thanks to all of you for comments, it has been very helpfull, not even in IBM could I get so much info!!!

  16. Aaron Cake Says:

    We repair a lot of these units. The problem with a dark screen (no LCD backlight) is a blown fuse on the inverter board. If you look at the board to the right of the white plug, you will see two fuses marked “FL”. It is generally the lower fuse (looking froom the top of the screen) that blows. The “FL” marking is by LittelFuse and denotes that the fuse is I think a 3A fuse. We just buy them at the local electronics store by giving them the part number “FL”. If you can solder surface mount stuff (or know someone who does) then this repair is worth about $1 (the cost of the fuse).

  17. Moshe Says:

    I had the same problem with my 9 year old netvista 2179. my problem turned out to be a dead harddrive though

  18. Chris Says:

    I have a netvista running pictures of customers who’ve bought cars at our car dealership, and one morning i came in and the computer was running, i could see the “shadow” of the pictures slideshow but was not ‘backlit.’ I ordered another netvista on ebay and after installing the TDK inverter card it still did the same thing… then I decided to move my “guts” to the PC i got from ebay and still the same result!! HELP! I’m about to scream. When the systems posts, i see IBM and it’s backlit perfectly, and after post it turns off the backlight and boots up dark…. what do i gotta do to get the system up and working again?

  19. fl0 Says:

    Did you test the netvista that you got off eBay? Maybe it was broken too, when you received it?
    If it wasn’t, the you’re in the same situation as I am…

  20. Tones Says:

    Hey Aaron, that’s great information. I just checked the fuses on my board (same symptoms as everyone else) and one fuse is blown. Can you be more specific about the fuse specifications? I’ve searched the LittelFuse website but I can’t find a match. Does your local electronics store have a website and do you know the catalog number for that fuse? I’ll keep searching. Thanks.

  21. Tones Says:

    Temporarily wired in a 3A 3AG fuse in a fuseholder – display fixed! Thanks again, Aaron, great work!

  22. Thomas Jones Says:

    Does the FL fuse varies in other inverter? I cant find the FL use. Any screenshots please? Thanks.

  23. Aaron Cake Says:

    Here’s a topic on my forum with a good description of the fuses and a picture of the board:

    http://www.aaroncake.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5926

  24. fl0 Says:

    Thanks Aaron!

  25. Thomas Jones Says:

    Thanks a lot for sharing Aaron. Got it! Great info.

  26. Mikey East Side Says:

    Thanks Aaron! I was looking for a fuse, but didn’t know they came in surface mount. Not only did I learn something new, but I fixed the NetVista I found in the GARBAGE today! Yeah!
    I tested the fuse and it was bad, so I soldered a small copper filament to short it. Should I buy a real fuse or keep it like this? The right side of the screen is a little over bright when black, and the bright control doesn’t seem to work.

    Thanks so much! I’m going to hook this bad boy up to my network, TV and stereo to use it as an A/V server.

    Psyched Mike

  27. Richard Says:

    I’ve been given a NetVista 2179700 and it is a really nice little computer.

    I would like to up the memory from 64mb, but….HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU GET TO THE MOTHERBOARD IN THIS COMPUTER?!!!

  28. fl0 Says:

    Richard, just browse the Lenovo.com website. You’ll eventually find the manual for your Netvista (or a similar model). In it, it is described very clearly which screws to remove in order to disassemble the system.

  29. Gabriel Says:

    My problem is exactly the opposite, the BIOS won’t start correctly and I’ve tried everything to fix it but no results whatsoever.

    Anybody knows how I can “save” the screen?

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